improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

radwomanist:

improlife:

radwomanist:

improlife:

radwomanist:

Men, keep quiet about abortion.

Can I just say that I do not care about men’s opinions when it comes to abortion. While I appreciate pro-choice male allies (and I root them on when they shut down pro-lifers) I still want the voices of women to be amplified. I know there are pro-life women and them being women doesn’t make their stance any less flawed to me, but even then I’d rather listen to the arguments of the women on that side. I’d rather pro-life women be the voice of the opponents because I genuinely give 0 fucks about what pro-life men have to say, yet they seem to lead the pro-life side of this whole abortion debate. (At least in my experience)

So I can’t comment on abortion because I’m a man?

You can I just dont care about what you have to say :3

Why

Because abortion is a women’s reproductive issue regarding the autonomy of the female body. I am not interested in hearing what men have to say, especially if that man is in support of taking the right to their own body away from women.

So does that mean I can’t talk about the homeless problem because I’m not homeless? How about kids starving around the world can I talk about them even though I’m not a starving kid? How about gun control? Can I talk about that even though I don’t have a gun and never have been affected by them?

All these things have the possibility of affecting you anyway. You literally CAN NOT get pregnant so abortion will NEVER affect you as you literally can’t need one if you wanted to. You may understand what it’s like to face starvation or gun violence but never will you face an unwanted pregnancy

Yes I will. If a woman has accident pregnancy and I don’t want it I still have to pay child support. Or vice versus if a woman wants an abortion and I want to keep and raise the child I have no say in it. She gets to murder my baby even though I want to keep it. Men are also affected by unplanned pregnancy and abortion

I dont care if it hurts your feelings. You are unable to get pregnant. 0% chance. No matter what. You may face accidental Impregnation. But you will never have a pregnancy. Therfore never have an unwanted pregnancy. It’s not that hard. The fact you think as a biological male you will face unwanted pregnancy is literally just fucking idiotic. You will never face an unwanted fetus in your body therefore your opinion on what to do in that situation is invalid. I don’t give a fuck if it hurts you feelings that you can not force the role of incubator onto someone. You are still not facing an unwanted pregnancy. (And I’m against the fact that men have to pay child support on babies they don’t want anyway so that argument mean nothing, and child suport affects people who can get pregnant as well)

And without men you wouldn’t have a kid. Just like without women we wouldn’t have a kid. Both men and women play a part in it. We both get a say in it. Btw it doesn’t hurt my feelings it’s just idiotic to cut 50% of the population out of the conversation.

You get a say In what happens to the kid when born not the pregnancy which is why for the nine months after you put sperm in someones body nothing changes for you. It’s not until 9 months later do you have to/get to make decisions. You play a part in the conception not the pregnancy, your body is not forming the fetus. It takes 2 to conceive it takes one to do everything else for the next 9 months. Which is why that one person is the person who makes the decisions until the child is born

We are cutting out the part of the population that will never need an abortion or experience any kind of pregnancy on a topic about what to do/what are your options if you get pregnant. So 100% of the people who would be effective still have valid opinions.

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

Anti-choicer: give fetuses the same right to life as every other human!!!!

Pro-choicer: okay *doesn’t allow fetuses to use someone else’s body without Their consent* *doesn’t allow forced organ donation/use for benefit of fetus*

Anti-choicers: no!!!! Not like that!!!!

Ok you don’t get to murder other people so can’t murder a baby

It’s not murder, it’s just not going out of your way to sustain their life. If I dont decide to go out of my way to donate a kidney to someone who is dying I have not murdered them.

The difference is that your call to not donate may or may not kill someone. That guy might still be lucky enough to find someone who is willing to donat a kidney but abortion your call and your choice has directly killed an innocent life

Even If I was the only human in the world to have a kidney match, therefore your may or may not argument doesn’t work, I have still not murdered anyone. Which is why even if my uterus is the only one in the world and I refuse to give it up to a fetus, I have not murdered. I have just refused to be used to sustain life. There is a difference. Not actively sustaining a life does not equal murder.

Your literally telling a doctor to kill the baby inside you while your not telling the doctor to kill the guy needing a kidney. It’s killing a baby

No I’m telling a doctor to remove a fetus from my body. I’m telling the doctor neither can use my body for survival. The fetus not being able to live seperate from using my body is just an outcome. As is the person not being able to survive without my kidney, the death is just the outcome. I’m all for removing a fetus and putting it on life suport if the fetus is compatible with life at that stage. But not going out of your way to save someone’s life does not equal murder. Which is why not going out of my way to continue a pregnancy doesn’t equal me murdering the fetus.

Your not listening. If you don’t donate an organ someone else can still come by and donate an organ to save his life. It would not be your fault he ended up in a position where he needs someone else’s organ. If you take a fetus out of your body your decision actively as you put it “ not being able to survive outside of the womb is the outcome” which means that it kills the baby. It’s your fault it’s dead. It’s killing a baby.

No you’re clearly not listening I already said even if I’m the only one who can donate an organ that would save his life, and I dont. I have not murdered him. I literally already said that. Even if that decision leads to his death, I have no obligation to sustain his life using my body. Just like I have no obligation to sustain a fetuses life using my body.

Even then your not the reason why the guy who needs the organ is put in that position but your the reason why the fetus is they’re. Also it’s a false fallacy. In no situation would you be the only person to be able to donate a kidney whatsoever.

Yes it would never happen but the fact still remains that not using your body to provide somone life is your right as a human and does not make you a murder. Even if you are the only one able to save someone’s life. If it wasn’t okay in the kidney example then it wouldn’t be okay in any other situation, but it is in the example and in every other situation.

So it has to be my fault for me to be forced to sustain someone with my body? Well if I’m raped it’s not my fault, it’s the rapists so I can abort. If my contraception fails it’s not my fault it’s the contraception/ contraception companies fault, so I can abort. If I’m uneducated on how reproduction/pregnancy works then it’s not my fault it’s my partners for exploiting me/the education system for failing me so I can abort.

pickupyourpistol:

tobeyisprochoice:

Consent to sex is NOT consent to pregnancy.

This is just more illogical verbal gymnastics that abortion advocates use that make absolutely no sense…

Consent to speeding is NOT consent to a ticket.

Consent to heroine use is NOT consent to addiction.

Consent to overeating is NOT consent to getting fat.

Consent to driving is NOT consent to an accident.

Sounds pretty stupid, huh? You must be smart enough to know the difference between an action and a consequence. Sex is an action, pregnancy is a consequence. You can ONLY consent to an action, you accept the consequences by default. ALL OF THEM… Grow up and take responsibility for your actions.

Just because there is a risk of something doesn’t mean you need to remain stuck with the consequences and do nothing about them.

Ex: consent to speeding is not consent to never getting your license back

Consent to herione is not consent to never getting clean/going to rehab

Consent to over eating is not consent to never losing weight

Consent to driving is not consent to being left to die in a acident.

You are not consenting to never getting help/fixing your problem. Pregnancy is not the only outcome of sex.

pickupyourpistol:

softbutchcryptids:

Anti-choicer: give fetuses the same right to life as every other human!!!!

Pro-choicer: okay *doesn’t allow fetuses to use someone else’s body without Their consent* *doesn’t allow forced organ donation/use for benefit of fetus*

Anti-choicers: no!!!! Not like that!!!!

Pro-life: give the unborn the same rights to life as every other human!!!

Pro-abortion: *Hurr-Durr - kills unborn anyway*

Pro-lifer: No!!!! Not like that!!!!

People’s rights are limited by the rights of others. It’s my right to not be forced to sustain someone else’s life with my body and others right to life is limited by not being able to use my body to sustain life. No matter how old. Simple. They have that same right to life as everyone else. They just don’t have a special one that would force people to be incubators, which is what you are really mad about

papafargo:

dankmemeuniversity:

Pokemon really HAS been teaching us to fight our animals all along…

(via whyyoustabbedme)

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

Anti-choicer: give fetuses the same right to life as every other human!!!!

Pro-choicer: okay *doesn’t allow fetuses to use someone else’s body without Their consent* *doesn’t allow forced organ donation/use for benefit of fetus*

Anti-choicers: no!!!! Not like that!!!!

Ok you don’t get to murder other people so can’t murder a baby

It’s not murder, it’s just not going out of your way to sustain their life. If I dont decide to go out of my way to donate a kidney to someone who is dying I have not murdered them.

The difference is that your call to not donate may or may not kill someone. That guy might still be lucky enough to find someone who is willing to donat a kidney but abortion your call and your choice has directly killed an innocent life

Even If I was the only human in the world to have a kidney match, therefore your may or may not argument doesn’t work, I have still not murdered anyone. Which is why even if my uterus is the only one in the world and I refuse to give it up to a fetus, I have not murdered. I have just refused to be used to sustain life. There is a difference. Not actively sustaining a life does not equal murder.

Your literally telling a doctor to kill the baby inside you while your not telling the doctor to kill the guy needing a kidney. It’s killing a baby

No I’m telling a doctor to remove a fetus from my body. I’m telling the doctor neither can use my body for survival. The fetus not being able to live seperate from using my body is just an outcome. As is the person not being able to survive without my kidney, the death is just the outcome. I’m all for removing a fetus and putting it on life suport if the fetus is compatible with life at that stage. But not going out of your way to save someone’s life does not equal murder. Which is why not going out of my way to continue a pregnancy doesn’t equal me murdering the fetus.

Your not listening. If you don’t donate an organ someone else can still come by and donate an organ to save his life. It would not be your fault he ended up in a position where he needs someone else’s organ. If you take a fetus out of your body your decision actively as you put it “ not being able to survive outside of the womb is the outcome” which means that it kills the baby. It’s your fault it’s dead. It’s killing a baby.

No you’re clearly not listening I already said even if I’m the only one who can donate an organ that would save his life, and I dont. I have not murdered him. I literally already said that. Even if that decision leads to his death, I have no obligation to sustain his life using my body. Just like I have no obligation to sustain a fetuses life using my body.

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

radwomanist:

improlife:

radwomanist:

improlife:

radwomanist:

Men, keep quiet about abortion.

Can I just say that I do not care about men’s opinions when it comes to abortion. While I appreciate pro-choice male allies (and I root them on when they shut down pro-lifers) I still want the voices of women to be amplified. I know there are pro-life women and them being women doesn’t make their stance any less flawed to me, but even then I’d rather listen to the arguments of the women on that side. I’d rather pro-life women be the voice of the opponents because I genuinely give 0 fucks about what pro-life men have to say, yet they seem to lead the pro-life side of this whole abortion debate. (At least in my experience)

So I can’t comment on abortion because I’m a man?

You can I just dont care about what you have to say :3

Why

Because abortion is a women’s reproductive issue regarding the autonomy of the female body. I am not interested in hearing what men have to say, especially if that man is in support of taking the right to their own body away from women.

So does that mean I can’t talk about the homeless problem because I’m not homeless? How about kids starving around the world can I talk about them even though I’m not a starving kid? How about gun control? Can I talk about that even though I don’t have a gun and never have been affected by them?

All these things have the possibility of affecting you anyway. You literally CAN NOT get pregnant so abortion will NEVER affect you as you literally can’t need one if you wanted to. You may understand what it’s like to face starvation or gun violence but never will you face an unwanted pregnancy

I will feel unwanted child support for a whole list of messed up reasons but idc if women comment on that and try to make a better issue out of it

https://dadsdivorce.com/articles/ask-a-divorce-lawyer-stopping-child-support-for-kids-who-arent-yours-can-i-kick-my-spouse-out-of-my-house/

Here’s one example of bs child support

Stopping child support for kids who aren't yours | Dads Divorce

I have a child support order from another state for two kids that I found out aren't mine. How do I go about stopping this order?

Dads Divorce

Cool. You choice for you is not the universal and does not change anything. Again women can face haveing to pay child support. YOU WILL NEVER IN YOUR LIFE FACE AN UNWANTED PREGNANCY.

Yes I will. If a woman gets pregnant by accident and I don’t want it I have no choice but to pay child support. Men also deal with consequences of unplanned pregnancy

Facing consequences =/= facing an unwanted pregnancy

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

Anti-choicer: give fetuses the same right to life as every other human!!!!

Pro-choicer: okay *doesn’t allow fetuses to use someone else’s body without Their consent* *doesn’t allow forced organ donation/use for benefit of fetus*

Anti-choicers: no!!!! Not like that!!!!

Ok you don’t get to murder other people so can’t murder a baby

It’s not murder, it’s just not going out of your way to sustain their life. If I dont decide to go out of my way to donate a kidney to someone who is dying I have not murdered them.

The difference is that your call to not donate may or may not kill someone. That guy might still be lucky enough to find someone who is willing to donat a kidney but abortion your call and your choice has directly killed an innocent life

Even If I was the only human in the world to have a kidney match, therefore your may or may not argument doesn’t work, I have still not murdered anyone. Which is why even if my uterus is the only one in the world and I refuse to give it up to a fetus, I have not murdered. I have just refused to be used to sustain life. There is a difference. Not actively sustaining a life does not equal murder.

Your literally telling a doctor to kill the baby inside you while your not telling the doctor to kill the guy needing a kidney. It’s killing a baby

No I’m telling a doctor to remove a fetus from my body. I’m telling the doctor neither can use my body for survival. The fetus not being able to live seperate from using my body is just an outcome. As is the person not being able to survive without my kidney, the death is just the outcome. I’m all for removing a fetus and putting it on life suport if the fetus is compatible with life at that stage. But not going out of your way to save someone’s life does not equal murder. Which is why not going out of my way to continue a pregnancy doesn’t equal me murdering the fetus.

improlife:

softbutchcryptids:

improlife:

radwomanist:

improlife:

radwomanist:

improlife:

radwomanist:

Men, keep quiet about abortion.

Can I just say that I do not care about men’s opinions when it comes to abortion. While I appreciate pro-choice male allies (and I root them on when they shut down pro-lifers) I still want the voices of women to be amplified. I know there are pro-life women and them being women doesn’t make their stance any less flawed to me, but even then I’d rather listen to the arguments of the women on that side. I’d rather pro-life women be the voice of the opponents because I genuinely give 0 fucks about what pro-life men have to say, yet they seem to lead the pro-life side of this whole abortion debate. (At least in my experience)

So I can’t comment on abortion because I’m a man?

You can I just dont care about what you have to say :3

Why

Because abortion is a women’s reproductive issue regarding the autonomy of the female body. I am not interested in hearing what men have to say, especially if that man is in support of taking the right to their own body away from women.

So does that mean I can’t talk about the homeless problem because I’m not homeless? How about kids starving around the world can I talk about them even though I’m not a starving kid? How about gun control? Can I talk about that even though I don’t have a gun and never have been affected by them?

All these things have the possibility of affecting you anyway. You literally CAN NOT get pregnant so abortion will NEVER affect you as you literally can’t need one if you wanted to. You may understand what it’s like to face starvation or gun violence but never will you face an unwanted pregnancy

Yes I will. If a woman has accident pregnancy and I don’t want it I still have to pay child support. Or vice versus if a woman wants an abortion and I want to keep and raise the child I have no say in it. She gets to murder my baby even though I want to keep it. Men are also affected by unplanned pregnancy and abortion

I dont care if it hurts your feelings. You are unable to get pregnant. 0% chance. No matter what. You may face accidental Impregnation. But you will never have a pregnancy. Therfore never have an unwanted pregnancy. It’s not that hard. The fact you think as a biological male you will face unwanted pregnancy is literally just fucking idiotic. You will never face an unwanted fetus in your body therefore your opinion on what to do in that situation is invalid. I don’t give a fuck if it hurts you feelings that you can not force the role of incubator onto someone. You are still not facing an unwanted pregnancy. (And I’m against the fact that men have to pay child support on babies they don’t want anyway so that argument mean nothing, and child suport affects people who can get pregnant as well)